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Trump and Jesus


Trump seems to be gathering support from a significant section of the American Christian community. I wonder why? His comments about many groups, including women, Mexicans and Muslims, and now advocating torture, is contrary to what the Christian message is supposed to be. Yet the more outrageous the comments, the more conservative Christians seem to be drawn to his form of intolerance and bigotry. I keep asking myself why?

Christians here in Aotearoa New Zealand clearly don’t see any part of Trump’s message as Christian, and a church in Auckland has expressed its opinion rather bluntly. It has put up a large billboard which depicts Jesus nailed to the cross, and Trump standing before him holding a hammer in his hand and saying “I don’t like losers”.

The minister of the church says Trump’s message directly contradicts the word of Jesus.

To the Trumps of his day, and to those who see winners as having money and power, the Jesus of the Bible was a loser who associated with those rejected by society. And he died broke. Jesus had an alternative vision of reality, however. He was a person who sided with minorities and those who were most vulnerable, and it was this that got him killed.

No-one will convince me that Jesus was anything other than a human being. I like much of his message, even though the Gospels distort some of it in an attempt to make him greater than he really was.

St Luke’s minister Glynn Cardy says that the billboard will stay up over Easter and as long as Trump’s candidacy is undecided.

Should religion keep out of politics, and if so is this billboard crossing that line? Personally I don’t think so, but then we Kiwis don’t have large numbers of those who believe in Bible literalism to contend with. Perhaps if I lived elsewhere, the US Bible belt or some east African nations for example, then I might think otherwise.

Author: Barry

A post war baby boomer from Aotearoa New Zealand who has lived with migraines for as long as I can remember and discovered I am autistic at the age of sixty. I blog because in real life I'm somewhat backwards about coming forward with my opinions.

7 thoughts on “Trump and Jesus

  1. I like the billboard. It is honest and expresses the opinions of those depicted accurately. i doubt he could even get it removed – it is him.

  2. The label Christian is used by all sorts of people because in western democracies it is a symbol of a kind thoughtful person with high moral principles.
    Of course we all fall into that category who would say they did not?
    Mr Trump and many politicans know more about image than most of us; and they covet the benifits such a label would give them.
    Wave a Bible about talk about prayer attend church are all badges to wear. They are easy badges the hard ones cost us much more.
    Remember the widows mite it makes absolutely clear the difference between showmanship and service.

    • While most NZers are religiously tolerant and in fact approve of religion, what they don’t like is an outwoard showing of it in the form you describe. Religion here is a private matter and any politician attempting to win voter support by wearing a religious badge of any sort is going to be bitterly disappointed. Most NZers have no clue as to the religion (or non-religion) of those they vote into office, nor are they particularly interested.

      • I did not know that its very interesting and I ask myself why.
        Perhaps the boot is on the other foot and those standing for office feel their personel beliefs may stop people voting for them.
        Should we wear our religion on our sleeve — an intetesting thought I’m pretty sure most faiths would be split on such an issue. It also raises the question just what is the purpose of religion?
        I’ve found on the whole humanity to be much the same. You have the good, the bad, the smart , the stupid, the beautiful and the ugly in all these labelled groups.

        • History has shown that politicians who do flaunt their religion (or lack of religion) don’t do well at the polls. Pluralism has been an accepted part of our society for a long time, and expressing or openly supporting a particular set of religious beliefs over another is contrary to that spirit.

          • It works for Mr Trump in America but I’m sure it would not work in your counrty . I’m in England ; over here it would be marginally effective.
            I’m all for pluralism being a live and let live agnostic.
            We must make some allowances for politicians they have to impress to keep their jobs, the majority of the work force don’t.

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